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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2015 10:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rarely leave comments, but I looked at a ton of comments here 
Pete Evans is clueless about nutrition &#124;. I do have 2 questions 
for you if you tend not to mind. Could it be just me or 
does it look as if like a few of the comments appear as if they are 
written by brain dead people? :-P And, if you are writing at additional places, I would like 
to keep up with everything new you have to post.
Could you make a list of the complete urls of 
your social pages like your linkedin profile, Facebook page or twitter feed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rarely leave comments, but I looked at a ton of comments here<br />
Pete Evans is clueless about nutrition |. I do have 2 questions<br />
for you if you tend not to mind. Could it be just me or<br />
does it look as if like a few of the comments appear as if they are<br />
written by brain dead people? <img src='http://scepticalnutritionist.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' />  And, if you are writing at additional places, I would like<br />
to keep up with everything new you have to post.<br />
Could you make a list of the complete urls of<br />
your social pages like your linkedin profile, Facebook page or twitter feed?</p>
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		<title>By: Thekla</title>
		<link>http://scepticalnutritionist.com.au/?p=1523#comment-3545</link>
		<dc:creator>Thekla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2015 09:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was Bill&#039;s reply to someone else&#039;s comment:

&quot;The concern is not for intelligent, well informed, highly motivated people who replace grains with vegetable, nuts and seeds. They will get along fine. The concern is for vulnerable groups who have low intakes and/or high needs for thiamin. If society gives up grains in order to be ‘healthy’ these vulnerable groups will be at increased risk of deficiency. Regards, Bill&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was Bill&#8217;s reply to someone else&#8217;s comment:</p>
<p>&#8220;The concern is not for intelligent, well informed, highly motivated people who replace grains with vegetable, nuts and seeds. They will get along fine. The concern is for vulnerable groups who have low intakes and/or high needs for thiamin. If society gives up grains in order to be ‘healthy’ these vulnerable groups will be at increased risk of deficiency. Regards, Bill&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Shrapnel</title>
		<link>http://scepticalnutritionist.com.au/?p=1523#comment-3463</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Shrapnel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Bec. You say Pete Evans is passionate about Paleo. I guess he was passionate about veganism when he was a vegan. But we shouldn&#039;t mistake passion for knowledge or insight. The only constant with Pete seems to be highly restrictive diets, which I strongly disagree with.
I don&#039;t agree with your views on polyunsaturated fats, blood lipids and heart disease. I&#039;ll address these in another post. Regards, Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Bec. You say Pete Evans is passionate about Paleo. I guess he was passionate about veganism when he was a vegan. But we shouldn&#8217;t mistake passion for knowledge or insight. The only constant with Pete seems to be highly restrictive diets, which I strongly disagree with.<br />
I don&#8217;t agree with your views on polyunsaturated fats, blood lipids and heart disease. I&#8217;ll address these in another post. Regards, Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Bec</title>
		<link>http://scepticalnutritionist.com.au/?p=1523#comment-3460</link>
		<dc:creator>Bec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 11:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill,

Ist world problems....
We live in a country where we can chose to eat whatever we like, but diet plans and nutritional advice has become a huge monopoly and it seems like everyone is in the game.
Paleo is a lifestyle and culture. People living Paleo, feel part of a large community and support and encourage eachother. It is nice and I think the diet has a lot of positives and is nutrient dense if done correctly. However I am not Paleo and I do not wish to become completely Paleo. I dont really eat meat so this is a hard diet for em to follow.
I gather that it may be frustrating that a &#039;celebrity chef&#039; is preaching to Australians about how they should live and eat. But he is just presenting a lifestyle and diet that worked well for him. I believe he is doing it because he truly believes in this way of eating. He is really passionate about it (except on MKR).
Again, I don&#039;t follow Paleo but there are definately benefits to this way of eating and living. Most importantly the emphasis on fresh, whole foods, opposed to processed. But I am not convinced on certain aspects of the diet. I&#039;m not convinced that you need to add coconut oil, butter/ cream  to cold drip coffee...... 
Also Pete&#039;s approach to preaching the diet on social media and flooding the media with information on Paleo doesn&#039;t interest me. I get flooded with posts etc that makes me think it is a culture of people on Paleo to be evangelical about the diet.
I have read some information on cholesterol and on PUFA&#039;s and in my understanding PUFA&#039;s oxidise more easily than saturated fats which is what causes a danger in those with high cholesterol. However this is when exposed to high temperatures. Also the size of the cholesterol particles appears to be an important factor for atherosclerosis, smaller particles being more problematic. Antioxidants play a big role in our diet and whilst some don&#039;t advocate fruit, fruit is a wonderful source of antioxidant nutrients. Forget superfoods, just eat the real foods grown locally, including fruits. 
People have become so obsessed with what specific foods do to the body in isolation or what specific nutrients one food contains over the other. You need to look at the &#039;whole&#039; diet, not one food item or food group. You can&#039;t hone in on fats and tell people not to eat saturated fats or not to eat PUFA fats. The diet as a whole is important. We need to be more holistic if we want to be balanced in our approach to eating. 
Some people will be utterly confused about what to eat, so they are probably gettign information about all different diets and combining them all together e.g. Paleo, Gluten-free, High protein, High saturated fat, standard Australian dietary guidelines. and you know what that could look like - disaster.
We need to be sensible, stop confusing people, be balanced, eat real food, don&#039;t over eat. We don&#039;t need to justify why we are drinking a fresh fruit and vegetable juice over a high fat protein smoothie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,</p>
<p>Ist world problems&#8230;.<br />
We live in a country where we can chose to eat whatever we like, but diet plans and nutritional advice has become a huge monopoly and it seems like everyone is in the game.<br />
Paleo is a lifestyle and culture. People living Paleo, feel part of a large community and support and encourage eachother. It is nice and I think the diet has a lot of positives and is nutrient dense if done correctly. However I am not Paleo and I do not wish to become completely Paleo. I dont really eat meat so this is a hard diet for em to follow.<br />
I gather that it may be frustrating that a &#8216;celebrity chef&#8217; is preaching to Australians about how they should live and eat. But he is just presenting a lifestyle and diet that worked well for him. I believe he is doing it because he truly believes in this way of eating. He is really passionate about it (except on MKR).<br />
Again, I don&#8217;t follow Paleo but there are definately benefits to this way of eating and living. Most importantly the emphasis on fresh, whole foods, opposed to processed. But I am not convinced on certain aspects of the diet. I&#8217;m not convinced that you need to add coconut oil, butter/ cream  to cold drip coffee&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Also Pete&#8217;s approach to preaching the diet on social media and flooding the media with information on Paleo doesn&#8217;t interest me. I get flooded with posts etc that makes me think it is a culture of people on Paleo to be evangelical about the diet.<br />
I have read some information on cholesterol and on PUFA&#8217;s and in my understanding PUFA&#8217;s oxidise more easily than saturated fats which is what causes a danger in those with high cholesterol. However this is when exposed to high temperatures. Also the size of the cholesterol particles appears to be an important factor for atherosclerosis, smaller particles being more problematic. Antioxidants play a big role in our diet and whilst some don&#8217;t advocate fruit, fruit is a wonderful source of antioxidant nutrients. Forget superfoods, just eat the real foods grown locally, including fruits.<br />
People have become so obsessed with what specific foods do to the body in isolation or what specific nutrients one food contains over the other. You need to look at the &#8216;whole&#8217; diet, not one food item or food group. You can&#8217;t hone in on fats and tell people not to eat saturated fats or not to eat PUFA fats. The diet as a whole is important. We need to be more holistic if we want to be balanced in our approach to eating.<br />
Some people will be utterly confused about what to eat, so they are probably gettign information about all different diets and combining them all together e.g. Paleo, Gluten-free, High protein, High saturated fat, standard Australian dietary guidelines. and you know what that could look like &#8211; disaster.<br />
We need to be sensible, stop confusing people, be balanced, eat real food, don&#8217;t over eat. We don&#8217;t need to justify why we are drinking a fresh fruit and vegetable juice over a high fat protein smoothie.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Shrapnel</title>
		<link>http://scepticalnutritionist.com.au/?p=1523#comment-3419</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Shrapnel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2015 20:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Jarrad. A blizzard of ideas and beliefs. It&#039;s worthwhile remembering that over the last 35 years government dietary guidelines have been produced based on thorough reviews of the available science. The emphasis on low fat intakes was early in this period and has been tempered since. The Heart Foundation never actually supported low fat diets.
Your decision to eat organic butter and organic coconut oil, but not canola oil, is your choice. However, no authoritative nutrition organisation in the world would support it. Regards, Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Jarrad. A blizzard of ideas and beliefs. It&#8217;s worthwhile remembering that over the last 35 years government dietary guidelines have been produced based on thorough reviews of the available science. The emphasis on low fat intakes was early in this period and has been tempered since. The Heart Foundation never actually supported low fat diets.<br />
Your decision to eat organic butter and organic coconut oil, but not canola oil, is your choice. However, no authoritative nutrition organisation in the world would support it. Regards, Bill</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://scepticalnutritionist.com.au/?p=1523#comment-3408</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2015 08:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may come as a shock to you, but we don&#039;t live in an ideal world. We don&#039;t all have the time or other resources to eat freshly picked, organic, blah blah foods all the time. So we have to do the best we can with what we have. And the idea of cutting out entire food groups for the sake of &#039;health&#039; (unless it&#039;s the foodgroup comprised of pluto-pups and Magnums) has always seemed counter-intuitive to me. Although I will freely admit that I&#039;m vegetarian, but that&#039;s because eating dead animals freaks me out. It&#039;s not a decision I based on health or what happened to be trendy at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may come as a shock to you, but we don&#8217;t live in an ideal world. We don&#8217;t all have the time or other resources to eat freshly picked, organic, blah blah foods all the time. So we have to do the best we can with what we have. And the idea of cutting out entire food groups for the sake of &#8216;health&#8217; (unless it&#8217;s the foodgroup comprised of pluto-pups and Magnums) has always seemed counter-intuitive to me. Although I will freely admit that I&#8217;m vegetarian, but that&#8217;s because eating dead animals freaks me out. It&#8217;s not a decision I based on health or what happened to be trendy at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrad</title>
		<link>http://scepticalnutritionist.com.au/?p=1523#comment-3402</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2015 07:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. This is not exactly a new article, but I just saw this posted here. Holy crap. The sad part is I actually used to BELIEVE this nonsense. I mean the low fat margarine (70% reduced fat naturally...), the diet yoghurt full of aspartame, the canola oil. I&#039;d follow all this advice. Is it any wonder I was obese and constantly getting sick? 

Started learning again what REAL food is, cut out anything synthetic from my diet and started exercising hard. A month later or thereabouts, something magic happened. The weight just started falling off my body. I lost nearly 50kg of fat by learning what real food is and exercising. I had tried the exercise on it&#039;s own before, but rapidly plateaued.

My diet now is absolutely only real whole foods. E numbers and strange long ingredients lists have no place in a healthy diet. I&#039;m probably the Heart Foundation&#039;s worst nightmare. My consumption of natural saturated fats is constant. I put organic butter on everything. I cook everything in organic coconut oil. My dairy is absolutely organic and 100% full fat. You&#039;d also better believe that I always eat the fat on my grass fed steaks and in fact on any other organic meat I consume!

I can&#039;t entirely agree with Peter Evans though, hell would freeze over before I gave up fresh sourdough smothered in butter.

So, according to nutritional guidelines put out by the government and others I should probably be dead ten times over. Instead I&#039;m fitter, healthier and happier than I&#039;ve ever been in my life. Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. This is not exactly a new article, but I just saw this posted here. Holy crap. The sad part is I actually used to BELIEVE this nonsense. I mean the low fat margarine (70% reduced fat naturally&#8230;), the diet yoghurt full of aspartame, the canola oil. I&#8217;d follow all this advice. Is it any wonder I was obese and constantly getting sick? </p>
<p>Started learning again what REAL food is, cut out anything synthetic from my diet and started exercising hard. A month later or thereabouts, something magic happened. The weight just started falling off my body. I lost nearly 50kg of fat by learning what real food is and exercising. I had tried the exercise on it&#8217;s own before, but rapidly plateaued.</p>
<p>My diet now is absolutely only real whole foods. E numbers and strange long ingredients lists have no place in a healthy diet. I&#8217;m probably the Heart Foundation&#8217;s worst nightmare. My consumption of natural saturated fats is constant. I put organic butter on everything. I cook everything in organic coconut oil. My dairy is absolutely organic and 100% full fat. You&#8217;d also better believe that I always eat the fat on my grass fed steaks and in fact on any other organic meat I consume!</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t entirely agree with Peter Evans though, hell would freeze over before I gave up fresh sourdough smothered in butter.</p>
<p>So, according to nutritional guidelines put out by the government and others I should probably be dead ten times over. Instead I&#8217;m fitter, healthier and happier than I&#8217;ve ever been in my life. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Shrapnel</title>
		<link>http://scepticalnutritionist.com.au/?p=1523#comment-3229</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Shrapnel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 02:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Z.M. None of early cholesterol-lowering trials (diet, cholestyramine, surgery) was perfect but generally they pointed in the same direction i.e. that cholesterol-lowering reduced coronary events. When statins arrived the issue was proven once and for all. Don&#039;t you agree??
Regards, Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Z.M. None of early cholesterol-lowering trials (diet, cholestyramine, surgery) was perfect but generally they pointed in the same direction i.e. that cholesterol-lowering reduced coronary events. When statins arrived the issue was proven once and for all. Don&#8217;t you agree??<br />
Regards, Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Z.M.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 17:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If cholesterol lowering has no effect on heart disease risk how can you explain the lower coronary events observed in people who have had a partial ileal bypass?&quot;

POSCH was non-blinded (not feasible in this case), and was confounded by surgical weight loss.  It should also be pointed out that mortality was the primary endpoint and was not statistically significant at the end of the formal trial. Yes, there have been numerous post-trial follow-ups, but these are post-hoc and outside of the trial&#039;s original hypothesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If cholesterol lowering has no effect on heart disease risk how can you explain the lower coronary events observed in people who have had a partial ileal bypass?&#8221;</p>
<p>POSCH was non-blinded (not feasible in this case), and was confounded by surgical weight loss.  It should also be pointed out that mortality was the primary endpoint and was not statistically significant at the end of the formal trial. Yes, there have been numerous post-trial follow-ups, but these are post-hoc and outside of the trial&#8217;s original hypothesis.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Shrapnel</title>
		<link>http://scepticalnutritionist.com.au/?p=1523#comment-3139</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Shrapnel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2015 02:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Primal Bear. I suggest you read a little bit more about cholesterol and heart disease. Medical science doesn&#039;t tell us that if a person has high blood cholesterol they WILL get heart disease. That person is just at higher risk for heart disease. It&#039;s a bit like speeding is to road accidents. If you consistently exceed the speed limit you are higher risk of having an accident, but that doesn&#039;t mean that you will have an accident.
There are several major risk factors for heart disease. If you lower them, you lower your risk. Regards, Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Primal Bear. I suggest you read a little bit more about cholesterol and heart disease. Medical science doesn&#8217;t tell us that if a person has high blood cholesterol they WILL get heart disease. That person is just at higher risk for heart disease. It&#8217;s a bit like speeding is to road accidents. If you consistently exceed the speed limit you are higher risk of having an accident, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that you will have an accident.<br />
There are several major risk factors for heart disease. If you lower them, you lower your risk. Regards, Bill</p>
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